There's an alternate name for this situation. It's called Hell. While this is from Saturday Night Live and is humorous, this isn't that far from what the socons want for all of us. Sure the wife looks miserable, but that's part of the joke. Look at how the husband is miserable too. It's a lot more subtle, but you can see it there.
My colleague, zed, over at The Spearhead has pointed despite all of the problems caused by feminism, the fact is that feminism by accident freed men. This is because feminism removed all of the societal requirements placed on men. This is also why men are happier than women now. It makes perfect sense when you think about it. Do you want to go back to this version of Hell in the video? Of course not.
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LOL, I like your tag for this. Conservative female supremacism sure beats my boring "conservative misandry" term. ;o)
Even as a fairly conservative Susie Homemaker type, I do not for the life of me understand the obsession with the 1950s that socons embrace. It was but a blip on our collective history as humans, not a good representation of "tradition" at all. Nor do the Bible verses about virtuous women hold up this 50s ideal of living contrary to what a few certain ministries seem to think.
The "traditional" woman wasn't June Cleaver vacuuming in her pearls but more like a pioneer women tending to a homestead out West with her family, beating the laundry on the rocks every Monday. Her husband wasn't the stressed out breadwinner but rather a hardworking hunter/farmer/do a little bit of everything self sufficient man. This couple would have likely seen several of their children die while very young, faced the harshness that is whopping cough, smallpox, measles, mumps, and other illnesses we now have the means to treat and prevent. They would have worked *very* hard at their respective jobs and roles, complementing one another and certainly not having the time to plot and scheme divorces and paternity fraud...or even greener pastures.
And I mustn't forget to add people who did not marry, for whatever reason, didn't enjoy the acceptance that they do now (which isn't saying much I know) despite the fact they too were contributing to the good of society.
Socons need to get this through their heads and realize how difficult real "family values" were and how far we have thankfully come. I'm quite thankful for the MMR and my dishwasher thankyouverymuch.
Also I must express my horror over the food in the video as that's really what nasty 1950s food was like. *gags* I have a collection of vintage home ec books, homekeeping manuals, and cookbooks from my grandmother and the cooking tips and recipes included are repulsive. Jello, canned this and that, dried everything...a better life through chemistry food it could be called. I'm not sure what women were doing all day back then but it doesn't appear to be cooking decent food, let alone trying to improve their homemaking skills at all. Many elderly women are impressed with my cooking because I know my way around a kitchen better than they do. A bit sad considering I've only been cooking in my own kitchen for five years....:(
I'm not sure what women were doing all day back then but it doesn't appear to be cooking decent food, let alone trying to improve their homemaking skills at all.
They were inventing feminism, lol.
Although I agree with you that marriage is not a fun place, nor necessarily were the 50s, you have to remember that the sociocons are looking back through their life to what they see as an idyllic time, probably from their childhood.
The thirties were the depression. The forties were the war and its aftermath, the sixties were the upheavel of the counterculture, drugs, vietnam. The seventies were a time of a huge recession, out of control inflation, and a general I hate U.S. attitude. The eighties and ninties were an acceleration of feminism, the hook up culture, on and on.
What were the fifties? I time when people were supposedly polite, social, stable and optimistic. That's what they remember looking back. especially if that was the time of their childhood, people have the fondest memories of when they grew up.
Finally, although I don't think marriage is the source of happiness that women tend to think it is, and men are reenforced to believe, it really never has been. It is a source of social stability and without it a society collapses.
It reins in both men and women (at least it used to which is why I say marriage has been dead for decades) and commits them to the goals of the social order.
It does not, nor will it ever bring happiness.
set us free. hmm. we've paid some prices for feminism...hadn't thought about how much more free we are as a result. the removal from the home, from fatherhood....hmmm. i'll be thinking about this.
It's quite fitting that January Jones, who does a superb job playing a bored (and boring) early-1960s housewife on "Mad Men" is the feature player in this skit.
Both Don and Betty would have been better off if they had not gotten married. They both lost of measure of their independence and their ability to reach their highest potential. Feminism created a huge increase in the divorce rate because people who never should have married in the first place decided they would be better off alone. But within a few decades, the rate leveled off because the new couples were marrying for love instead of out of a sense of duty to society or religion. In this sense, feminism has been a definite plus.
Hell, I can't even access the video in my part of the world. Mighty frustrating not knowing what you guy's are banging on about!
@Kathy
I found it on youtube, so you should be able to see it now.
PMAFT:
I disagree profoundly with you about feminism "freeing" men.
You are not really free if you are not free to have a family should you so desire because the costs and risks have been raised to an absurd level.You know how many men are slaving away in miserable marriages, others who've been divorced and are now in the alimony/c.s grinder and then then there are those who are victims of paternity fraud.
Right now is a great time to be a bachelor - if you want nothing to do with women! Otherwise you are perfectly free to be saddled with the consequences of her choices, whether that choice be to not tell you about a disease, have an "oopsie" pregnancy or falsely accuse you of this or that.
So yeah , if you want nothing to do with women, I suspect as a man you really are free these days. Those of us who want kids or love or companionship or whatever are stuck in the noose of new roles for women and old laws and expectations for men.
Clarence
@Clarence
I don't disagree. I was speaking about it in the same context that zed talks about it. Feminism, BY ACCIDENT, just ends up freeing men from the burdens of traditional roles since it destroys them and replaces them with nothing.
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