Here's an update on the experiment. I saw both Rachel and Kristen again. There isn't much interesting to say about Rachel except that things went well with her. One thing that I have noticed about her is that she definitely does have an overinflated ego which is pretty typical for women. This is also a hazard of where I live, the greater DC area. There are lots of people with an overinflated sense of their own importance because they have an insignificant job in the Federal Bureau of Uselessness or the Department of Sucking Money into a Black Hole. This is Rachel's exact problem. As annoying as this is, I am going to continue with her since positive data is more useful than negative data.
Things with Kristen also went well at least up until a certain point. I suspected before that she would be willing to spread her legs really quickly. I ended up confirming that. No, I didn't have sex with her. We were having this heavy makeout session that was about to lead there. Since I'm not going to stick my zucchini in a petri dish even with a condom, I put a stop to where things were going since Kristen didn't have recent STD test results. She didn't like that very much. It made her mad, and she started going on about how she had been with only a tiny number of guys. (We all know what that really means.) At this point I was ready to kick her to the curb since I don't need crap from a woman. Then Kristen decided to apologize to the point of saying, "You're right. I was wrong." I'm sure there's a lot of guys reading this, not to mention tens of millions of men out there not reading this who have not experienced a woman saying that she was wrong. Many of you are probably in shock. At any rate I'm going to continue things with Kristen because like with Rachel positive data is more useful than negative data. It also means as soon as Kristen's STD results come back that she is going to want sex so I will have to be ready for that.
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An interesting diary, I think.
Isn't the DC area just grand? My GF is not from here, thankfully.
I knew you would understand what I'm talking about, Nova. I only moved here a little over 6 years ago, and it was a real eye opener to discover just how many people have an overinflated sense of themselves despite the fact that reality should slap them in the face. Having a job that sucks up taxpayer money and produces nothing does not make you important. I know that there are people who think they could claim the same about me since I work for a contractor in defense and related areas, but I can point to actual things I have produced. I don't work for one of the well known names so we actually have to produce.
One time a while back I was in Middleburg, VA and that was the worst.
You are lucky that your GF isn't a native, but this disease does seem to effect non-natives too.
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Pmaft you have displayed real power. Your ladyfriend wanted you to show your superiority by sexing her like the superior man you are. Pmaft you did it better. You forced your ladyfriend to admit she will do what you want when you want it how you want it. I think roissy could never have done what you did.
I know the dude that said you were a lizard alien and part of a world ruling cabal was insane but there was truth to his lunacy. Pmaft you have real power. It is very rare. To most any person you are one of the rulers of the world. So you are not high government official or cabal member. You have supreme power. They don't.
DJ
" I'm sure there's a lot of guys reading this, not to mention tens of millions of men out there not reading this who have not experienced a woman saying that she was wrong. Many of you are probably in shock."
Not really. What you did to her is a technique the seduction community calls "push-pull." Basically, while you are in the middle in interacting with her and she's into you, you push her away, which makes her lust after you more. Interrupting a makeout session is a perfect example of this. Her admission of wrongness to you was her hindbrain's way of trying to win you back. She wants you, man. She wants you bad. You've got great game considering your circumstances.
As an aside, is it just me, or do a disproportionate number of bloggers in this corner of the web come from DC? You, Novaseeker, Roissy, Roosh, the list goes on.
You've got great game considering your circumstances.
FB, I know I must look like training wheels with this sort of thing although having depedestalized women a lot of it seems logical. Regardless, I have no aspirations of being roissy. I'm not sure if its because I'm juggling two women right now but this is starting to cause me to have less time for everything I want to do in my life.
As an aside, is it just me, or do a disproportionate number of bloggers in this corner of the web come from DC? You, Novaseeker, Roissy, Roosh, the list goes on.
I have noticed that. Maybe its the women here.
Do you really want to go through with this?
Will it make you a happier person?
No offence pmaft, but I think that you are selling yourself short, here.
Honestly, you deserve better.
" It made her mad, and she started going on about how she had been with only a tiny number of guys. (We all know what that really means.)"
Funny how this comment reminds me of this, wherein MarkyMark, myself et al attempt to locate the true average number of sexual partners for your run-of-the-mill twenty-something chick. High teens / low twenties is about right. Especially in DC, the home of racy female interns-cum-bloggers like Cutler who document their exploits.
"It also means as soon as Kristen's STD results come back that she is going to want sex so I will have to be ready for that. "
Dude. If you have to get test results before having sex out of fear of contracting an STD, that should be a big cosmic clue-bird that what you are doing is inherently unhealthy.
As an aside, is it just me, or do a disproportionate number of bloggers in this corner of the web come from DC? You, Novaseeker, Roissy, Roosh, the list goes on.
I think that the DC area is probably one of the worst areas for male-female relations in the United States. I'm not saying the men here are great, either -- the whole place reeks of supercilious self-congratulation and elite entitlement.
"Kathy Farrelly said...
Do you really want to go through with this?
Will it make you a happier person?
No offence pmaft, but I think that you are selling yourself short, here.
Honestly, you deserve better."
Katty apparently hasn't read that your hypothesis is that this will in fact not make you a happier, better person.
Interesting that you find it conflicting with other things you want to do. Often me find that success with women undoes a kind of mental stumbling block that sort of goes "I can't do that now, it isn't the right time, I have other things I need to do" to a I want to become a better man.
When I feel like I don't have enough time to do what I want, it usually means its time to move on.
Talleyrand, I only have so much time in a day. You or anyone might find my life boring, but I like it and that's the important thing.
I suspect the problem might be that I went from 0 to 2 women. Juggling two women isn't as fun as you might think. Sooner or later, most likely sooner, I will have to pick one for practical reasons if nothing else.
Katty apparently hasn't read that your hypothesis is that this will in fact not make you a happier, better person.
I don't think it will make me worse either, but not better as well. That's the point of what I believe that will be tested. Being a virgin or not doesn't tell you anything about the rest of your life.
Perhaps I am stating the obvious here, but having sex does indeed make you a happier person. That is why men do it. Otherwise we would stop once we have the desired number of children.
Hey Pmaft, was that you carrying on a few months ago about not being able to get a girlfriend because women only wanted to bang alphas? Perhaps sometime soon you'll be the one admitting you were wrong.
You're biased, love. You'll prove what you wish to prove.
An interesting piece of data from my point of view is checking disclose vs hide: see if that affects your desireability. (Hey, you've got two potential 'subjects'.)
@Professor Hale
Sex is fun, but I don't see how having sex will increase my overall happiness.
@Anonymous
No, I never said such a thing. I did say that I believed I wasn't able to find a woman interested in me. However, I never said that it was because they want to bang alphas. I have used terms like alpha and beta in writing simply because I do want to write 10 pages of exposition talking about what I really think is going on. The terms alpha and beta don't capture everything that is going on. I have long pointed out that beta in the animal kingdom just means an alpha who hasn't overthrown the alpha of his pack yet. At a minimum we need more degrees between beta and omega. Plus, I still not convinced there are more than 500 actual alphas in the US today.
@Bhetti
Yes, I'm biased. I don't deny that. My bias comes from my own experience, and that is real. If I'm wrong my thinking has to change so radically that it would be pretty obvious to myself and everyone else that I was wrong.
As for hiding my virginity from one and telling the other, the problem is that Kristen and Rachel are too dissimilar for that to work. I could see Kristen in particular thinking, "I know sex with him will turn him into a psycho stalker, but a zucchini is a zucchini."
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